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Old Oct 16, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13   #21
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Rotscale does run from Fire Storm. It makes him want to flee, and it makes him change his target. Just use an icy weapon.

I think outside the box all the time. I'm frequently the only person seen using my build, and I have a hard time getting in groups because I don't follow the cookie-cutter. But that doesn't mean I insult random people who don't like my build for valid reasons, which is what you do Stockholm.
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16   #22
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if he doesnt run, why not use it?

EDIT: OK i dont farm rot but people are saying he runs and some say he doesnt... which is it?
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 06:57 AM // 06:57   #23
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My bad!! Let me correct that, lol. Yes we did have Necro with shivers... I just assumed that every Rot farming group would have a necro with shiver.... :/

Rotscale doesn't run from Fire Storm. He pretty much stays in one place when he's all alone and the whole team ganging on him.
This is post 6. All the anti-firestorm posts were made after this one. It explains how Rotscale doesn't have room to run when he is getting gangbanged by most of the team...hence the no running thing. I say WinterStorm that mother into the ground.
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53   #24
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LouAl & Stockholm are completely right, the op DID say that Rotscale is BODYBLOCKED, so he couldnt flee from FireStorm even if he tried to.

the FS/Winter/SP combos is something interesting to see.

anyways, to the question, id go with FireStorm in this case, considering the aggro is correctly done.

firestorm does have its uses, most of you are just too busy with cookie-cuter i guess. if the backline of casters is under attack, a firestorm is nice to split the mobs up, in pve that is.

to the rest of the people that havnt made a constructive post so far; read the full thread, use your brain, make a decent post, or just dont post at all.
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05   #25
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Rotscale does run from Fire Storm. It makes him want to flee, and it makes him change his target. Just use an icy weapon.

I think outside the box all the time. I'm frequently the only person seen using my build, and I have a hard time getting in groups because I don't follow the cookie-cutter. But that doesn't mean I insult random people who don't like my build for valid reasons, which is what you do Stockholm.
Please don't use Fire Storm anywhere except pre-searing Ascalon.
Is that not an insult to the OP when he put's a valid argument for using a skill? that sentence only in your post, no argument to validate your point. Seams like trolling to me.
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Old Oct 18, 2006, 03:59 AM // 03:59   #26
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Okay.

When Rotscale is PINNED IN THE CORNER BY THE WARRIOR, HE CAN'T FREAKING MOVE SO USE FIRESTORM.

is it really that hard to understand?
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Old Oct 18, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10   #27
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Arkantos why don't you jump from the same floor? or thats not posted in a build for cookie-cutters so you can't do it?
What do cookie cutter builds have to do with the use of firestorm? The skill itself is crap. And no, I don't only use cookie cutter builds, so don't try to pull that crap.
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Old Oct 18, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16   #28
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If you're running purely for interrupts, as some people dont seem to be able to read :P then wouldnt running up to him and using Lava Font be a good idea? I dont know Rotscale's Skillset or the area around him, it just seemed to be better than both
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Old Oct 18, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31   #29
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If you've got him trapped then by all means use Fire Storm. It has the added advantage of stopping him from attacking or using skills. This is also means Spinal Shivers isn't of use.

I used this strategy when there was a tough Mursaat boss that the henchmen couldn't kill (I was monk so I had no attacks). Bodyblocked him, then when Cynn used Fire Storm he sits there not healing for 10 seconds.

The problem is rarely do you get a team that can coordinate like that, which is why Fire Storm is usually a bad idea.

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Is that not an insult to the OP when he put's a valid argument for using a skill? that sentence only in your post, no argument to validate your point. Seams like trolling to me.
I don't say "use it in pre-searing" as an insult. If you didn't know, in pre-searing nothing flees from AoE, so Fire Storm owns all there.

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Old Oct 22, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24   #30
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my nuker does this a totaly differnt way than all these
he uses mark of rodgart, firestorm, meteor shower, meteor, than follows up with pets skills from my secondary.
i own Rot this way with no interupt but the meteors
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38   #31
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Telling someone a skill sucks doesnt mean "LAWL u shud paly mi cuukie chutter bild!"

It is saying that the skill SUCKS. Firestorm sucks, and should be deleted from GW imo.

Ele nukers = fail anyways versus an Echo SS...
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 03:52 AM // 03:52   #32
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^Above..

Totally right. But you muts understand the situation. We're talking about Rotscale. He will hardly attack because he'll be casting mots of the time. And also, he won't even nail a full cast due to the fact that he's getting interrupted. SS would be better in taking out the dragons, but not Rotscale himself. Don't sidetrack this to Ele vs SS please.
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14   #33
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is this the " Fire Storm or Meteor Shower against Rotscale?" thread or the i dispise FS thread?

FS has a good purpose AoE. it buys time for ur casters to heal up if u have a idiotic tank that can't keep arrgo.
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15   #34
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Is it just me or does dosnt anyone bring glyph of energy when going as a nuker?

I always cast glyph of energy before MS...no exhuastion, 5e spell....just seems odd since everyone complained about it giving exhaustion.
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 10:23 AM // 10:23   #35
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I've used glyph at times but I don't rely on MS for primary damage so I normally run dual attunements. Spam my usual skills and then echo MS him.

Not been there in a while but when I went with a few groups I would normally just nuke his support crew with a monk keeping me alive. Then it is easy for the team to run up and pin him in a corner for the fight. It all depends on the team you are in and the general skills everyone has.

Fire Storm is not all that bad, it does have times where it is very useful. Do a search and you will find a number of threads where this has been discussed already.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21   #36
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"Ok Nukers! Fire away" When they say that, I cast arcane echo 1st, then MS, FS, MS and spam flare. They can't run while they are on their butts. So, Fire Storm the hell out of 'em.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #37
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Theres are reason why cookie cutter builds are coined that way. It's because they work. Why bash something that works? Would you rather have a build thats unique and doesn't work?
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